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Alright, since we need money to do Z-RUNs...I was trying to think of a way we can generate money other than GPQing. Amazingly, I have a few brain cells that was working today! So I want to share this with all of you and let me know what you all think (and I mean ALL OF YOU have to give FEEDBACK).

1. I was at this event last month and they were auctioning Firefighters (yeah I know lame). Anyways, I thought we could do the same thing with our HIGH LVL PLAYERS, we can try and auction them out to our MEMBERS and other players from other guilds. We can set the length of time the "buyers" can keep our players for. I see it as a Win-Win situation. Both players will have a training partner (for however long we decided it's going to be) and OUR GUILD WILL GENERATE SOME MONEY on this EVENT!

2. Another IDEA I have...we can do GPQ CLINIC for new GUILDS in Bello and charge them a fee for it....


What do you think?!?!?!?!?! FEEDBACK PLEASE....CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACKS

You got this idea while dressing like in that pic Marie? ;)

hahaha

I like the idea...except:

1. How do we hold the event with other guilds involved?
2. How do we determine the starting bit to generate enough funding for Z-run?
3. What if it turns out that...we have to stuck with certain unpleasant individual for a length of time...>.> (I don't think there would be a refund...)


By the way, the 'bit on firefighter' isn't lame at all...I rather think it's quite...awesome...(Hope I was there...>.<)


PS. Stopping thinking about that picture, Tomy...You are such a CAD. XD

Very Funny TOMY!!!! I'll make sure you're the FIRST TO GO ON THE AUCTION BLOCK!

Let's try for CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK Please...>.>


@Pauline~ROFL, it was a fun evening...though I couldn't afford the bidding...One firefigther was auctioned for $2000.00...>.>


We don't have to do a LIVE AUCTION, we'll do a "SILENT AUCTION" it's much easier that way. We will post our players that are being auctioned here on the guild site and the bidding can be done by posting here (Much easier to track that way). We can set the starting bid ourselves...we would need to discuss that. Unfortunately, it's out of our control what kind of buyers we will have. We can announced the event in Bellardia and possibly a SMEGA.

....Must be ONE extraordinary firefighter...(got one of his pictures girlfriend?! >.>)

So our options are selling ourselves out and becoming teachers. Seems like a decision someone thinking about going into English would have to make...

what is going to happen if some lvl 60-80 "buys" me and tell me to train him in hoodoos during my 2x?? idk you but i dont like that >.<

people who are being auctiond need to be willing and state that they will train with whoever they get. also in auction we could set a time frame for when they are bought for

also no refunds is a good policy.

we could also post in guild site or somewhere else asking for donations to guild, for people not in guild or otherwise to see.

doesnt hurt to try anything

tomichiwar wrote:

what is going to happen if some lvl 60-80 "buys" me and tell me to train him in hoodoos during my 2x?? idk you but i dont like that >.<

We can put minimum lvls for each of our players that are being auctioned. The thing is for a lvl 60-80 to train with you is quite useless....They will not be gaining exp....so we would need to put a minimum lvl and amount for each of our PLAYERS. Make sense to you?!

For my sis idea:

1. I agree with what Tom said. Plus when Im on, Im on 2x and I dont want to waste my time. Sowie.

2. If a guild need help with GPQ, more likely they dont have money to pay for CB that why they cant GPQ. Can they really pay for us? How much can we charge them? Plus we have to join their guild. Ewww I dont want to join other guild, pay me 100 mil, maybe.

Here is my idea:

We need 2 funds: GPQ and Zakum fund. Im holding about 40 mil, this will be GPQ fund. I will take care of the GPQ expense. Zakum fund is on my sis. Shes holding about 45 mil. Each Zakum run cost 45 mil so we need to have Zakum fund about at least 2 times mean 90 mil. From now on, we will GPQ for Zakum fund. If the fund get more than 110 mil then all drops will go to members. If the fund get lower than 90 then all drop will go to the guild Zakum fund.

Im prefer NOT responsible for selling the drop, my sis does better job than I do. Unless someone else wants to do this, Im prefer sistor takes care this job. We GPQ at our own time and make money for our guild, what's better?

Well, regardless of which method we use to raise the Z-run funds, we will always be met with 2x. Do NOT tell me that people don't complain about 2x on GPQ.

However, if we really only rely on GPQing to raise the funds, then to be regarded as a Zakuming guild, we would then have to stop the members from getting drops during GPQ for a period of time. Because we need to GPQ often (which cost mesos) and we need to Z-run regularly (which cost more mesos unless someone donates.)

Then again, if we don't plan to Z-run often enough to have a slot of our own, then we could just hold it once in a while and let members keep the drops from GPQ when the fund is enough for us to run once or twice.

Do note that our guild isn't good enough to start selling Z-helms considering we don't have our own Z-run time and we lack of high level players.

Malaag wrote:

So our options are selling ourselves out and becoming teachers. Seems like a decision someone thinking about going into English would have to make...

Actually, my English teacher did both....o.O...she even spent time in prison, where she got her teaching degree. xD

Well, I really don't have much to say about this. I'm sorta neutral at this point...so...go with whatever you want. >.>

Since we have point system, ppl cant refuse to participate in GPQ any more. Plus I beleive most of us love GPQ regardless of 2x or drop to guild or to ourself.

Katuzi wrote:

I beleive most of us love GPQ

I don't. >.>

This is what I have in mind about this so far:
1. Assume after the purchase
happened, for some reason of emergency , the one was sold cant his/her
training time with the buyer, then how can we handle the refund.
In that case, I suggest that we put our player price on a per hour rate.
2.
I think the one who being sold should have the rights to reject or
accept the bid of the buyer, since if the buyer is someone that you
dislike, you must not want to stay with that person for such long
training time.
3. What if that buyer make us involve in "embarrasing" situation like ksing and stuff, can we insist on leaving and no refund?
4.
To encourage more people participate into this, we need to set up a
points system relevant to it for those wanted to earn helm. And for
those all ready had their helm, I think a half for player and half to
guild will be necessary (or some other ratio).

Overall, I think
this is really a great idea Marie. But since it involve money and
people, this system has potential of causing a lot of dramas if we dont
have really specific restrictions about it.

Thanks Thanh for your input! I do like your ideas and see your points...Definitely there's a lot that needs to be worked on this idea! Though it is an idea, that's why I want everyone's feedback on this!

Once, we can get enough agreement on this then we will work out on those details!

This is just a thought, not deeply thought about at that, but something that might be expanded upon by others input...

How about adding specific equips/scrolls to be added to the donation section for Zruns? ("Acceptable Donations List")

I say specific cause we cant reasonably expect a lvl '35' weapon or most DEF scrolls to bring in any 'useful' amount of money to fund Zruns. What would be acceptable could be determined by the Jrs or a committee of price savvy Maplers. Could be as simple as, Accepting only lvl 70+ equips and weapons and NO DEF scrolls, or as specific as deemed necessary (and could vary based on current selling trends in Bellocan).

To help encourage donations, a point system could be set up based on the donations given. You could say for every [specific] dollar amount received from the sale of the donation(s) is worth 1 point. Since funding is important, the JRs could determine whether a maximum number of points possible for the 'Donations' Category should be in place or not.
For example: You could say, for every [500k] received from the sale of equips someone donated, he/she would receive 1 point in the 'Donation' Section towards the next Zrun.
*[this amount to be determined by the JRs] ie, could be 500k, could be 1m, etc*

Since there are still many that cant APQ for apples, this would give them another way of 'Donating' towards future Zruns. And to help keep the spreadsheet(s)/Zhelm list accurate, it would be recommened that each person keep a separate tab of 'Donated' items, dates donated, and to whom the item(s) were donated to.

Another issue to discuss would be how to allocate the points. Since the points are based on AFTER sales, there would have to be specific guidlines outlining HOW the points will be allocated.
For example: Lets say someone donated 2 acceptable equips and 1 acceptable scroll from the "Acceptable Donations list" (briefly mentioned above). One equip sells before the cut-off date of the next scheduled Zrun, for 900k, but the other equip and scroll don't sell until after the Zrun, for 750k and 1.2 m (Total of 1.95m).
For this example, It has been determined that you can get 1 point for every 500k received from the sales of donated items.
This would mean, for the next scheduled Zrun, that person would receive 1 point in the 'Donation' Column, and 3 points towards the following scheduled Zrun (assuming no other donated items from that person were sold before the cut-off date of the following Zrun).